Al Mohler Keynote Speaker At GBC 07!
August 4, 2007 by David
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Hey, my name is Brett, and I believe I met you before Dave through Autumn, you came over to my house and I was impressed with your jazz playing. I have stumbled on your blog becuase I was exploring Michael’s friends (who I know through Caroline) who I converse with often. I used to be Christian but I am currently an agnostic, and I wanted to invite you to comment on my latest blog about Christianity and America since you seem very culture-saavy (whereas I mainly blog about philosophy and science and this is my first culutre entry). It is on the website that is under my name, whenever you have a spare moment your company would be much appreciated.
Hey Brett. I’m actually David Nilsen, I think you’re after Dave Martina (He’s the only amazing Jazz musician I know who is also friends with Autumm). He posts here occasionally, but hasn’t in a while, so I’ll make sure to pass on your message the next time I talk to him. Thanks for reading!
I origionally left this on your old blog, but then I realized you moved, so here is the cut-and-paste of it:
Hey David N, this is MissingNo (real name is Brett) and I am certainly happy to have another blogger to correspond with even though I did not directly invite you, you are more than welcome to comment on anything on my blog. Concerning what you wrote, that is true that God did not want a king initially, and that is factor that I had not considered, but I suppose even though God should ideally be the ruler of the theocracy (within Christian theology), the Bible implicitly shows that a monarchial king is the best form of government if the government is under humanly managment . . .though of course maybe he just gave the israelites what they were asking for regardless of how ideal it was. All in all, the brunt of the message was that the reason our government is so effective in checking individual whimsy (though there is still of course corruption, like Cheney) is becuase of revolutionary ideas from philosophers and not the Bible. I dont know of one thing within the Bible that is revolutionary at all for governments, but maybe you can correct me on this point too. Peace out.
Brett, thanks again for the comments. I haven’t read enough political philosophy myself to speak very authoritatively on this subject, but I’m wondering just how high you’ve placed your burden of proof here. What do you mean by “one thing within the Bible”? As an example of what I’m getting at, Natural Law is a highly developed philosophy that much of America’s foundation is based upon. Now, Natural Law is not something found directly within the Bible, you won’t find Paul explicitly espousing that particular philosophy, but Natural Law was developed by Christian philosophers based entirely on a Christian worldview, which of course finds its own foundation in the Bible. The same could be said of basic human rights, even something as specific as the 14th Amendment to our Constitution. The idea that all humans are created equal, and moreover that they are created in the image of God and therefore have inherent value worthy of rights and protection, is a uniquely Judeo-Christian idea. In fact, humanist philosophy originated not from secular thinkers but from Christian thinkers, long before the enlightenment. In any case, you’re mostly right when you say that the Bible contains nothing (explicitly) revolutionary for forming political structures, because the authors of the Bible lived in a Pagan empire. Christians of the day were not some kind of violent social revolutionaries, they were counseled to obey their government so as to be good witnesses and to win their Roman rulers to Christ. In many ways that sort of political attitude should be true for Christians today. Thanks again for continuing the dialog!
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I knew as soon as I saw which post you commented on exactly what you were going to say, haha.